Antonio Pace, President of the Associazione
Verace Pizza Napoletana:
I think the defense of the tradition is one
of the most serious and most noble way to mark the identity, not only of an
extraordinary product such as the Neapolitan pizza, but to bring out and
enhance the identity of a culture and a territory: Napoli, the beautiful capital
of the Southern Italy and former capital of various kingdoms. Loved by the
whole world, Naples has the duty to preserve with love and jealousy its
historical heritage that is culture, art, music, architecture, gastronomy, folklore
and much more. The pizza is one of the jewels of this enviable heritage. To
learn more about the true Neapolitan pizza we interviewed Antonio Pace, the President
of the Association which preserves the memory and the characteristics of the
real pizza, having promoted a specification accepted by all over the world.
Q Mr. President Antonio Pace, the Pizza
Napoletana is produced successfully all over the world. What is really the
difference from other artisan pizzas made by so many pizza makers in Italy and abroad
and how do you evaluate these different pizzas from the taste point of view?
Even if everybody identify myself as a
defender and promoter of the Pizza Napoletana, I always have great respect for
all kinds of pizza and baked goods that are made in Italy because they
represents the variety of the culinary culture that our country is able to
express in each Region. I know very well the commitment and the effort that all
the pizzaioli put in their own work, and I think the choice of the most
pleasing product it is not up to me, but only up to the end users. The
Neapolitan pizza is a disc of dough which characteristic is to be a highly
digestible product thanks to a long leavening and maturation process. It
differs from other kind of pizza from the looking, because, beside its round shape,
it should be soft, folded in four, or as we say in Naples “a portafoglio” (wallet
style), it must have a 1 inch rim and be thin in the middle.
far as concerning the ingredients needed for making a Pizza Napoletana, is
there a possibility of using flour grinded by foreign wheat, tomatoes from various
sources, extra virgin olive oil not of Italian origin? To be called Pizza
Napoletana is it sufficient to make it with the traditional shape as it has
been made in Naples?
Even since 1984, when we wrote the first Regulations
for making the real Neapolitan pizza, we promote, together with the Pizza
Napoletana, the excellence of our territory with products such as San Marzano
tomatoes, Italian extra-virgin olive oil, Mozzarella di Bufala Campana and Fiordilatte
from Southern Apennines. Regarding the flour we need a different approach. Even
though during the last few years we assisted to a rediscovering of some domestic
grains, you cannot think that all the flour utilized by the pizza makers come from
Italy. What characterizes our country is the milling technique that Italian flour
producers have developed over the years.
Q Who guarantees that the severe regulations
indicated by the Disciplinare are diligently and successfully followed by the
pizzerias displaying the signboard of the Verace Pizza Napoletana and which
controls are performed, in which way and by whom?
I never liked the word "control".
I prefer to talk about verification. We never forced or pushed any pizzeria to
join our Association. We want to maintain the affiliation as a voluntary choice
because this is the way the pizzeria feels. Follow the Disciplinare means care
to all the people who, entering in a pizzeria, expect to eat a specific
Every year we make more than 200 inspections
in Italy and abroad, and what makes us happier, is to observe that the
percentage of the pizzerias that doesn’t follow the Disciplinare is less than
1%. We also set up a rule that allow 30 days for each pizzeria to re-enter in
the standard because we do not like to expel the members, but only to make sure
that more and more points in the world are serving a Vera Pizza Napoletana.
Today, compared to 30 years ago, the verifications
are made more often because thanks to the web and to the Friends of the Vera
Pizza Napoletana (a global community of over 2,000 people all over the world), we
constantly receive reports, comments and suggestions about our affiliates.
Obviously our expert master pizza makers are in charge to verify everything but,
in this way, we can keep under control also the pizzerias located in remote territories
of the world.
Q The Neapolitan pizza is a product belonging
to Italians, as a result of a history of centuries and a masterfully evolution leading
to reach, in its form and in its substance, a high quality level. In addition
to Campania, is it possible to find
other places in Italy and abroad where to eat a Pizza Napoletana made following
Whoever wants can now eat a Vera Pizza Napoletana
all over the world, from Brazil to Japan, from Canada to New Zealand. The total
number of pizzerias affiliated to our Association is now 620, distributed in 34
countries worldwide. During the last few years, besides the territories that
first started to promote the Pizza Napoletana such USA, Japan and the rest of Europe,
countries like Singapore, the Philippines, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Kuwait and
more, has been added to that list. The new discovery land will be Africa from where
some important signs begin already to arrive.
Q What do you think about the so-called
"gourmet pizza" and how it can be considered in the world of pizza?
I keep repeating that the term “gourmet
pizza”, now commonly used, is wrong. We should instead talk of “pizza for food
lovers”. As I said at the beginning of the interview, the Neapolitan pizza is a
disc of dough, which leaves to the skill, and the experience of the pizzaioli all
the possible combinations of ingredients, in respect of the common
gastronomical rules. I am in favor of all kind of gourmet pizzas, but I say no
to the pizza with pineapple, hot dogs or French fries.
Q A last question: how do you see the future of
the Pizza Napoletana due the rampage of the industrial pizzas?
In my opinion, the boom of the Neapolitan
pizza is a part of a worldwide rediscovery of all the artisanal jobs and the handcrafted
products, and not only in the food industry. If, from one side the large
multinational companies are expanding with their standardization of the
product, on the other side we assist to a rediscovery, especially by the young generation,
of the agriculture, handicrafts and all the jobs that require not only manual
skills, but a great specialization. I am an optimistic person by nature, because
I think that the optimist is the person who believes in others, while the
pessimist believes only in himself. This is the reason why I wanted to create
an Association. Alone I could not do everything and as I always point out: “The
Pizza Napoletana has not inventors, not fathers, and not masters but is the
fruit of the ingenuity of the Neapolitan people.
Sunday 16 October 2016